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midnightbirdgirl |
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If He was her final authority she would not gave do many councils and a CCC bigger than the bible!!!
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Loose Nut |
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Cama
Is dat so? f so where is the written Word of GOD does it say ukrist? :YUK YUK!! And where does he give the instructions on baking the Yukrisk, ooh i get it so,mewhere between Gen and maps, right?? Way to go, and them Cajuns got some mountain top property about 100 miles south or rain and day will giv you a goood price on it! Jes get on yoour peiro and brought youseld on down!
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Alexandra1611 |
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I have a bridge for sale too.
"It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray
against Antichrist, and as to what Antichrist is no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the popery in the Church
of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name...." --C. H. Spurgeon
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glorybe429 |
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cama
<it's not all that diffiCULT to comprehend> what's that? that you are in bondage to a satanic CULT which leads you to believe a LIE? Of course it isn't. <except if you are so BLINDED BY HATRED...> toward GOD, HIS WORD, and HIS "ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD and men, CHRIST JESUS" as YOU are. "by their FRUITS you shall know them" |
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glorybe429 |
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cama
GOD condemns that EVIL you know? and that mockery your cult calls eucharist |
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Alexandra1611 |
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"It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray
against Antichrist, and as to what Antichrist is no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the popery in the Church
of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name...." --C. H. Spurgeon
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satanisdead |
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I have a piece of bread with an image of mary that I drew for sale too.
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Deborah1611 |
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Act 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, ... . Final Authority For Zions Sake Soldiers of Christ |
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Big dave3119 |
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Have any of you heard of St. Ignacious of Antioc? He was a pupil of the Apostle John. St. John tought him the Way. He writings to other churches show that he
believed the Eucharist was and is the Real Presence of the Lord. I lack references right now cause its late for me and I must get to bed. However if you would
like further info and references I will be happy to supply them later.
Blessings , Dave |
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midnightbirdgirl |
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Big Dave, Judas was an apostle of Christ...so???
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Big dave3119 |
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Oh man, thats so weak!! I can't believe it. Judas killed himself for what he did. John was the beloved disciple. He wrote one of the gospel accounts as
well as Revelation. How do you ever make that kind of comparison? John was a true follower of Jesus. He tought Ignatious (sp) the gospel. Thats a pretty good
man to have as your teacher I think.
Read the early fathers of the church, many of them teach the same as the present church teaches. How wonderful that the church of Christ is the same always |
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XrcTim |
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He wrote one of the gospel accounts as well as Revelation.Shows how much of Scripture you know. He also wrote three epistles.
He tought IgnatiousWhere do you Romanists get this stuff from? Where in Scripture does it say that John taught Ignatius? Read the early fathers of the church, many of them teach the same as the present church teaches.Only if you read the doctored quotes by Roman authors. One case is the Roman assetion that in Letter 131 Augustine supposedly said "Rome has spoken, case closed." The only problem is you cannot find it in that letter. When in doubt, make it up.
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Alexandra1611 |
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Big dave3119 wrote: Catholic references, I bet. Where is it in the Bible?
"It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray
against Antichrist, and as to what Antichrist is no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the popery in the Church
of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name...." --C. H. Spurgeon
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midnightbirdgirl |
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Tim, the just make it up as they go along.....they believe it because Rome said so!
Dave, don't you think something of that kind of import would be in scripture??? Holy cow just like Mary was assumed...because ummmm it is logical!!
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satanisdead |
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I don't think it is proper to say John wrote the book of Revelation. Verse one, makes it plain that the book was revealed to him in vision. In fact, none
of the apostles themselves wrote scripture on their own.
2 Peter 1 16For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty. 17For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. 18And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. 19We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: 20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Timothy 3:15-16 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; Ephesians 3:5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; |
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satanisdead |
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Hi Big Dave, we don't find the arguments from the church fathers for your views of baptism and for your views of the Lord's Supper convincing because,
Marcovich in his book on Patristic Textual Criticism writes about the church fathers that, "I came
to the conclusion that the text of these manuscripts is lacunose, corrupt, dislocated and interpolated to an extent not anticipated by previous
editors." ( M. MARCOVICH, Patristic Textual Criticism. Part I (Illinois Classical Studies, 6). Atlanta, Scholars Press, 1994). Other
"critical" texts on the church Fathers' like the newer Loeb Classical Series have reached similiar conclusions on your proof texts. See also, The
Apostolic Fathers: Greek Texts and English Translations by Michael W. Holmes too. I am involved with a think tank composed of both top catholic and protestant
scholars examinig the texts of the church fathers for accuracy, at this point it appears dismial to say the least for catholic apologeticists who employ those
texts uncritically like you all do.
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Alexandra1611 |
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Actually, Daniel...
Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John: Rev 1:2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. Revelation 21:5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
"It is the bounden duty of every Christian to pray
against Antichrist, and as to what Antichrist is no sane man ought to raise a question. If it be not the popery in the Church
of Rome there is nothing in the world that can be called by that name...." --C. H. Spurgeon
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Big dave3119 |
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It is in the scripture folks. Read the Gospel of John Chapter 6. Its all there. And yes I know John also wrote 3 epistles. I am 76 years old and I was reading
the King James Bible before most of you were born. Memorized all the books of the Bible Old and New Testament. Don't give me all your anti stuff
The early bishops of the church wrote much interesting material from which we can learn much about how the early church worshiped and tought. No its not the Bible but its about the Bible such as much of the material you read. Jack Chick is not the Bible either but you people read it as if it were... |
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XrcTim |
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It is in the scripture folks. Read the Gospel of John Chapter 6. Its all there.That is correct John 6 is in the Bible, so tell us somehting we do not know.
And yes I know John also wrote 3 epistles.OK, then why did you fail to mention it, forget because of senility?
The fact that you just had to give us your age and tell us you were reading the KJV and memorized it before we were born, sounds as if it is not true. The early bishops of the church wrote much interesting material from which we can learn much about how the early church worshiped and tought.They wrote quite interesting material and some material that was out and out heresy. I would like you to answer "Rome has spoken, case closed" supposedly by Augustine, but does not appear in his letter 131. It leads me to wonder just how much more of their writings did Rome tamper with? No its not the Bible but its about the Bible such as much of the material you read. Jack Chick is not the Bible either but you people read it as if it were...I don't read Jack Chick so that argument falls flat, and BTW Jack Chick DOES NOT claim his stuff is on par with Scripture like Rome's extra-biblica doctrines. So just what is your point? |
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Deborah1611 |
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Actually, Rome tampered with many writings, Brother Tim! Remember all the forgeries?? Maybe I will dig out my information and repost this stuff for the
Catholics who haven't a clue!
In Christ, Deborah
Act 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, ... . Final Authority For Zions Sake Soldiers of Christ |
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